i like your op

True. Given true dedication, it may be possible. But to most of us this seems impossible.

The fact is, you cannot be LIKE them ... all you can HOPE to do is to pick SOME aspects of what they stood for, and TRY to follow them.

my agreement is partial due to the use of the words 'nobody'.. of course there are ppl all over the world who live out the way of life propagated by Ghandi,King & Mandela. This way of life is antithetical to the hedonistic, consumeristic, cut-throat capitalistic way of life that dominates many modern societies (aka. the culture of violence!). A culture of peace & non-violence is the answer

may be because nobody really "felt" those principles in their guts. Logically, their principles can always be thrown into the back-burner by quoting various arguments like "incorrect, won't work out, use of force is more expedient etc". And moreover, their principles are something that should be exercised/understood at a personal level first.

Nelson Mandela was not a terrorist, he stood up for what he believed in...

courage is required, yes. But if we think that "truth and honesty" are not our principles but like the waves of the sea that hold our modest boats up, abiding by them won't be a matter of abiding by our principles (which can turn out to be flawed or misinformed or unnecessary, over time) , but rather attuning ourselves to the vast nature. So we don't have anything to defend , anything to abide by. Just the simplicity of the truth to see and follow. Do you think so ?

"I do not consider Hitler to be as bad as he is depicted. He is showing an ability that is amazing and seems to be gaining his victories without much Bloodshed" Mohandas K. Gandhi January 1942.
Some of their principles deserve to be rejected, Sadly.

I wonder about Gandhi, is he a good examble of a man who liberated people who now don't follow his principles or did he just return India to it's former status quo complete with the untouchables and their slavery within the hindu system

On the contrary nobody talks about Gandhi, Martin Luther King & Nelson Mandela, everybody knows these men exist but few know anything in much detail about their achievements & how they made history, its like kids with father Christmas & the meaning of Christmas, Nelson Mandela is simply seen as some sort of dignitary, with many not understanding why he is held in such high esteem.


You are wrong